Posted by: inforodeo | November 10, 2008

Please Stop Attacking Traditional Marriage


1. stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one’s own.
2. the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot.

I feel discriminated against every time i hear the word “bigotry”. 

Less than a year after people were protesting and running various slurs against my church because one of our members (not a ‘leader’, as some have claimed) was running for for the office of President of the United States (“and he’s going to give 10% of his personal income to the church”, “they believe in having multiple wives!”, etc), we’re now being attacked (literally!) because we don’t support the infringement (or potential infringement) of our right to “marriage” being exclusively between man and woman.  If the U.S. government was making a law stating that the label “Organic” could mean anything edible (providing ‘equality’ to all farmers, including those who are forced, economically, to use cheaper forms of pest control, like pesticides and bio-engineering), and that all “vegan” foods had to include at least 10% animal by-product (just to be ‘fair’ and provide ‘equality’ to ranchers) … some people would get angry.  Some might even try to raise money for a proposition on the ballot, and place ads on television …

Does that make them bigoted?
Technically, maybe, yeah.

Just like those bigoted Australian aboriginal peoples who fought to maintain Uluru as a sacred place, losing out later to tourism, even though the aborigines were still the ‘owners’ of the ‘park’.  The government rules that it was ‘fair’ and created equality to allow tourists worldwide to bus across the preserve and climb up the sacred rock, using modern iron guideposts and cables to safely transcend (and blaspheme!) …

People, like myself, who believe “Gay Marriage” is a dangerous issue, are not targeting “Gays” or singling out ‘gays’ and trying to oppose them; we are trying to preserve our right to a religious ordinance we hold sacred. 
The LDS church, a Christian church that is based on the Bible as well as the Book of Mormon, believes that God has called homosexuality an ‘abomination’.  As Christians, we “hate the sin, but love the sinner”.  I do not know of any instance where an LDS person has attacked gays for being gay (which doesn’t mean there haven’t been any weirdos acting on their own, but the church leadership is DEFINITELY against ‘gay bashing’). Here are some quotes from one of the Apostles::

ELDER OAKS: This is much bigger than just a question of whether or not society should be more tolerant of the homosexual lifestyle. Over past years we have seen unrelenting pressure from advocates of that lifestyle to accept as normal what is not normal, and to characterize those who disagree as narrow-minded, bigoted and unreasonable. Such advocates are quick to demand freedom of speech and thought for themselves, but equally quick to criticize those with a different view and, if possible, to silence them by applying labels like “homophobic.” In at least one country where homosexual activists have won major concessions, we have even seen a church pastor threatened with prison for preaching from the pulpit that homosexual behavior is sinful. Given these trends, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints must take a stand on doctrine and principle. This is more than a social issue — ultimately it may be a test of our most basic religious freedoms to teach what we know our Father in Heaven wants us to teach.

ELDER OAKS: Let me just add a thought to that. There is no fullness of joy in the next life without a family unit, including a husband, a wife, and posterity. Further, men are that they might have joy. In the eternal perspective, same-gender activity will only bring sorrow and grief and the loss of eternal opportunities.

ELDER OAKS: President Hinckley has helped us on that subject with a clear statement that answers all questions of that nature. He said, “We love them (referring to people who have same-sex attractions) as sons and daughters of God. They may have certain inclinations which are powerful and which may be difficult to control. If they do not act upon these inclinations, then they can go forward as do all other members of the Church.”

ELDER OAKS: It seems to me that a Latter-day Saint parent has a responsibility in love and gentleness to affirm the teaching of the Lord through His prophets that the course of action he is about to embark upon is sinful. While affirming our continued love for him, and affirming that the family continues to have its arms open to him, I think it would be well to review with him something like the following, which is a statement of the First Presidency in 1991: “The Lord’s law of moral conduct is abstinence outside of lawful marriage and fidelity within marriage. Sexual relations are proper only between husband and wife, appropriately expressed within the bonds of marriage. Any other sexual conduct, including fornication, adultery, and homosexual and lesbian behavior is sinful. Those who persist in such practices or influence others to do so are subject to Church discipline.”

My first responsibility as a father is to make sure that he understands that, and then to say to him, “My son, if you choose to deliberately engage in this kind of behavior, you’re still my son. The Atonement of Jesus Christ is powerful enough to reach out and cleanse you if you are repentant and give up your sinful behavior, but I urge you not to embark on that path because repentance is not easy. You’re embarking on a course of action that will weaken you in your ability to repent. It will cloud your perceptions of what is important in life. Finally, it may drag you down so far that you can’t come back. Don’t go that way. But if you choose to go that way, we will always try to help you and get you back on the path of growth.

ELDER OAKS: The First Presidency made a wonderful statement on this subject in a letter in 1991. Speaking of individuals and families that were struggling with this kind of problem, they said, “We encourage Church leaders and members to reach out with love and understanding to those struggling with these issues.” Surely if we are counseled as a body of Church membership to reach out with love and understanding to those ‘struggling with these issues,’ that obligation rests with particular intensity on parents who have children struggling with these issues… even children who are engaged in sinful behavior associated with these issues.

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Feel free to dig through the Church website.  you will find no rallying to ‘go out and beat up gays’ – only calm discussion like that above.

One of the things mentioned … and i’m not sure if he is mentioning this specific case or not … is the imprisonment of Pastor Ake Green in Sweden
In Sweden, there is a law meant to prevent ‘hate crimes’, that makes it illegal to speak out against any particular group of people. If you were to publicly announce “all men have funny teeth”, you could be jailed (though i’m sure that particular statement would have probably received more leniency).  Green, preaching from the bible (i think he was quoting from Lev 18:22 or 20:13, though he could have used the whole range – Gen 19:5, Deut. 23:17, Isa. 3:9, Rom 1:27, 1 Cor. 6:9, 1 Tim. 1:10, Jude 1:7). he gave the sermon on July 20, 2003, was sued, and sentenced on June 29, 2004 to one month in jail (which was lenient, considering what the law could have imposed upon him). Why should a man be jailed for his religious beliefs?

The people opposing (in the current case, Proposition 8) claim ‘it won’t hurt anyone to legally recognize gay marriage’, but it will.  As i’ve stated before, if ‘gay marriage’ becomes legal, then opposing ‘gay marriage’ becomes illegal, right?  The law simply can’t make something “legal” and allow its opposite to also be “legal”. 
As innocuous as it seems, creating a legal definition in support of “gay marriage’ is the first step in greatly reducing the freedom of religion – the freedom to practice religion – in our country.  Whether those protesting the churches realise it or not, they are fulfilling the very prophecy of those churches they oppose:

Woe unto them that call evil good , and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!
Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:
Which justify the wicked for reward, and take the righteousness of the righteous from him! 
[Isaiah 5:20-23, KJV]

If it is too difficult to read the ‘old english’, let me modernize it for you:

Wo to those who say sin (i.e. homosexuality) is ok, and opposition to the sin is discriminatory or hateful –
you who say the limited sciences and theories of men are the highest realm of intelligence, while the mysteries and simple truths of God are just old superstition, and the product of limited minds –
you who think violent protest and angry words are ‘peace’ and ‘progress’, while those who walk in peace and obedience are backward and cruel!
Wo to those who have decided to themselves that they are the wise ones and have thought out the best plans for the future!
Wo to those who would otherwise be mighty and valiant, but who waste their productiveness socializing and drinking wine, and wo to those who were given strong bodies, but who harm those bodies and minds with drunkenness:
You are elevating the sin (abortion, homosexuality, drunkenness, coveting, theft, idol worship, piercings and tattoos, hatred), while accusing those who refuse to participate in or raise up such sin of being ‘bigoted’, ‘small-minded’, ‘superstitious’, ‘old-fashioned’ and ‘ignorant’!

[Isaiah 5:20-23, Suryoday’s Revised, Modernized, “Well-Duh!” Version, or “SRMWDV”]

They want to falsely say their push for recognition of their ‘marriage” is a desire for equality in civil matters, like insurance.  well, normally i couldn’t want to do anything to help a group promoting abominable sin, but there are several insurance options already available.  I know this from experience – a former employer of mine, Verizon Wireless, offered insurance benefits to “domestic partners”, though only of the same sex. (This meant when my live-in girlfriend was sick, we had to pay out of our own pocket, and when i had my little brother living with me for 2 years, i couldn’t get him any insurance benefits).  Does this mean people of the homosexual persuasion should flock in droves to Verizon Wireless?  No way, dude!  a simple and quick google search for “american insurance offering options for gay couples” brought up 149,000 sources of help for those who insist on living that kind of lifestyle.  Why not check ? their friendly search engine allows you to find options state by state, city by city! (Before you start freaking out because your state isn’t listed, please keep in mind, their site is not comprehensive, so there may be others elsewhere … just 148,999 more sites to go!) …

If the argument is just about a ceremony … why not just have one? 
It is not illegal to throw a big party, wear a bridal gown or a tuxedo, throw rice, have a flower girl, even to print up your own pretty marriage certificate! You can still buy a wedding cake, register on a gift registry, book a honeymoon, and rent a ‘bridal suite’ … and you don’t even have to pay a higher rate than a traditional couple – do you think the industry would really limit their income-potential in this modern day when few want to “get that piece of paper’ anyway? 
Don’t say it’s hard to find a wedding planner!  You are, after all, gay!  (that would have been funny on “Will & Grace”, but coming from someone who doesn’t support ‘gay marriage’ it is a bigoted remark, right? Only if you’re prejudiced against people who think differently than you).

Ok. so problem solved.  You have the same benefits, discounts, options for celebration, etc as any ‘straight’ couple … what more do you want?  I mean … you even have access to clubs and parades that straight people don’t have access to.  You have access to scholarships that straight people don’t have access to!  (i wanted to put a link to the one or two ‘straight’ scholarships available, but – surprise! – there aren’t any!) …

I believe the push for legalizing ‘gay marriage’ is solely based in a hatred of organized religion.  It’s an organized movement to “in your face!” the establishment.  The movement is using violence, rioting, lies and any other corrupt method to attack those who don’t believe the same way.  THAT, my friends, is bigoted.


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